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PostPosted: 31 Oct 2010, 16:02 
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We all know metal music. It's the music of basement dwelling nerds, social outcasts, and satanists... or at least that's what the media would have you believe. To be quite honest, the tag is much too broad. Many negative connotations come from very specific subsections of the genre. I personally feel metal has the potential to be just as artistic as the other genres and is ignored due to a group of (literal) heathens. This is how the tag SHOULD be broken down. Feel free to discuss.

Traditional

Traditional metal is perhaps the only (good) sub-genre to ever receive mainstream exposure. The actual roots are debatable, with everything from Led Zeplin to Iron Maiden considered as the tag's forefathers. What is clear, however, is that the genre is based on the evolution of trends set by psychedelic and blues bands such as Blue Cheer and Cream. Subdivisions of this tag include speed metal (though the legitimacy of this tag is often debated), New Wave of British Heavy Metal, and even Glam (or "Hair" metal). Chances are, any "Heavy metal" you've heard falls under this tag.

EXAMPLE: Iron Maiden- The Trooper

Doom

Doom metal, perhaps one of my favourite sub-genres, first lumbered on to the music scene in 1968 with the formation of Black Sabbath. It is frequently characterized by slow, crushing riffs, lots of "fuzz", and emphasis on the oft-forgotten bass. Since it's creation, it has forked into many sub-sub-genres. Stoner doom (Heavy music popularized by bands such as Sleep with a slow and fuzzy, often cannabis driven sound), Sludge (influenced by punk and southern rock; see Acid Bath), Epic (featuring near operatic vocals; see Candlemass); Drone (Extremely slow and sometimes refrigerator like BWOOOMs; see Earth and Sunn O))) ), Death/Doom (featuring growled death vocals; see Swallow the Sun), and Funeral Doom (incredibly depressing and vocals are often incomprehensible; see Funeral and Ahab). Interestingly enough, doom metal and it's derivative forms (ESPECIALLY atmospheric sludge, or post-metal, that will be discussed later) are the most hipster approved metal genres.

EXAMPLE: Electric Wizard- Dopethrone (great blend of Stoner and Sludge)

Power

Ah, power metal. I tend to enjoy mine like my pizza, with extra cheese and topped with fruit. Power metal was developed by Manilla Road, and to be fair, was pretty BAMF'n back then. Crystal Logic is still one of my favourite albums. Now, however, it has become what many would call World of Warcraft-core. Granted, it is a great deal of fun! It also has a tendency to be blended with progressive or symphonic metal for whatever reason. Sub-genres include: European Power Metal (generally fruitier, and more melodic; see Helloween), US Power Metal (Aggressive and kinda thrashy; Fates Warning is a good example, despite being more progressive), Progressive Power Metal (My favourite that is often rather complex; Go get the album Temple of Shadow by Angra now, it's fantastic), and Symphonic (Which is exactly what it sounds like; Blind Guardian's newer material is a personal favourite here).

EXAMPLE: Angra- Deus Le Volt!/Spread Your Fire

Thrash

Fast, aggressive, and driven by the well known Bay Area scene. I label this genre the "problem child" of metal. Mainly because it would later birth the extreme metals I am about to discuss. The genre actually gained some mainstream popularity with the "Big 4" (Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer, and Anthrax) despite it's aggression. Megadeth is the only one of these four I find worth listening to however. The best thrash came from lesser known bands such as Artillery and Coroner. While the genre COULD be split in to smaller sections such as Crossover thrash, I find the overall tag to be sufficient.

EXAMPLE: Artillery- By Inheritance

Death

In the 80s thrash began to grow darker. Eventually the band Possessed would craft a dark opus known as Seven Churches. The gory themes and gluttural vocals would soon develop into the notorious death metal, musically characterized by aggressive guitar work and rapid drum "blast beats". This trend was solidified by the Floridian metal band Death, who gave the genre its name and formed death metal into an entity entirely separate from thrash. The genre was wholeheartedly embraced by Sweden, where trve OSDM got its start. Sub-genres include: OSDM (Old school death metal; see Dismember), Brutal/Slam (Completely incomprehensible vocals and incredibly aggressive riffing; see Lykathea Aflame and Gorguts), Progressive (My favourite that often blends harsh and acoustic; see Opeth), Blackened (Tremolo picking and Satan! Absolutely terrifying; see (or don't) Behemoth), Finndeath (Odd death metal from Finland with almost burped vocals and twisting riffs; see Demilich), Melodeath (Melodic Death Metal often from Gothenburg Sweden that sounds like power metal with growled vocals; see Dark Tranquility), Technical Death Metal (pure display of technical prowess that often forgets the actual "soul" of music; Cynic is one of the few examples I enjoy), Death/Doom, and Czech Death (Odd death metal from Czech Republic; see !T.O.O.H!)

EXAMPLE: Opeth- Bleak

Black

This is the absolutely terrifying form of metal that gives the genre such a bad wrap. Regardless, there is some good black metal as well. Around the same time as the development of death metal, the thrash bands Celtic Frost and Venom began to pioneer the genre of black metal, which was given its name by a Venom album. Characterized by a low emphasis on production, raw tremelo picking, aggressive drumming, a grim appearance (as shown by white "corpse paint" and a generally medieval appearance) and lyrics that are either
A.) Philosophical
B.) Satanic/Occult
C.) Pagan
D.) Nazi
E.) Hateful
F.) Misanthropic
G.) Winter
H.) Death/Suffering
I.) All of the Above
The really interesting story of Black metal happened in the early, 90s however. This was the time of the second wave of black metal. Church burnings, murder, suicide, and general havoc were abound in Noway and parts of Sweden. The most famous story here is of Varg Vierkienes, the one man behind the band Burzum. He was convicted of the murder of Mayhem's guitarist Euroynmus. Varg, however, was recently released from prison and released his latest album Belus. He was released not because he was found innocent, but because his term was up. Subgenres include: War metal (raw, terrifying, and satanic; avoid see Naked Whipper); Symphonic (Orchestrated, and often synth driven; see Emperor and Borknager); Post-Black (Innovative and avant-garde; see Ved Buens Ende); Avant-Garde (Only a passing resemblance to Black, but great regardless; see Solefald, Vulture Industries, and Arcturus), Viking (metal, unsurprisingly, about vikings with folk influences; see Enslaved (and Amon Amarth, though they are really a Melodeath band about Vikings)), DSBM (Depressive, Suicidal black metal. Really bad and whiny though see Pestre Noire if you want a decent example), Ambient (A dark kind of ambient music; see Burzum), Progressive (Exactly what the name says; see Cormorant), NSBM (Nazi-Socialist Black Metal. Metal strictly about racism and hate. I have no examples, nor do I want any) and many forms of Folk metal (which I will get to next).

EXAMPLE: Alcest- Ecailles De Lune Pt. II (Beautiful, non-satanic, shoegaze-y, and still a good example)

Folk

Folk metal is metal based on folk musics (derp). Originally conceived by the NWOBHM band Skyclad, the genre has since diversified. Also notable is that most modern folk metal is heavily influenced by either Black or Power metal. It is incredibly difficult to separate the tag due to its diversity however, so I will just discuss some notable bands. Primordial is a band that plays a breed of folk metal characterized by swelling epic melodies and atmospheres, with a significant celtic influence. I highly recommend their latest album, To the Nameless Dead. Agalloch is another significant band that blends folk music with doom metal, black metal, and post rock. Some people are bored to tears by them, but I love them. Give The Mantle a go to discern your own opinion. Finntroll is an (unintentionally) hilarious band playing blackened folk ONLY about trolls. Trollhammren is my flaming anthem. The Lord Weird Slough Feg may better fit under traditional, but listen to them regardless. Traveler is their best album, and it is about space pirate werewolves and genetic modification in space (yeah...). Lastly I will discuss The Hammers of Misfortune. While really more progressive metal than anything, their folky side is truly amazing as well. I recommend their entire discography.

EXAMPLE: Agalloch- You Were but a Ghost in My Arms

Progressive

It's between this and Doom for my favourite genre of metal. Progressive metal is one of most innovative genres out there. The only consistent gripe people tend to have with the genre is the lyrics, which range from amazing to laughably bad. This is metal however. If you listen for lyrics YOUR DOIN' IT RONG. Progressive metal is also difficult to break up. Just know that there is a strand of prog associated with each genre I have discussed. Some great pure prog metal bands include Psychotic Waltz, Riverside, Porcupine Tree (granted they actually more prog rock than anything), Ayreon (Get The Human Equation, now), Star One, Dream Theater, Deadsoul Tribe, Pain of Salvation and Devin Townshend (my avatar is actually one of his albums).

EXAMPLE: Ayreon- Day 3: Pain

Avant-Garde

Avant-Garde is unique in that it is defined by doing things differently than the other genres. It often is closely associated with progressive and black metal (as discussed in the Black metal section). Few pure avant-garde bands exist, though Diablo Swing Orchestra and Sleepytime Gorilla Museum share very few commonalities with the other genres.

EXAMPLE: Diablo Swing Orchestra- Ragdoll Physics (the album is free btw, check my archive)

Symphonic

Metal characterized by grand orchestras and classical like composition. These bands are more likely than other metal bands to have female vocalists. I generally split it into two sub-genres: Power metal influenced (Including some Blind Guardian and the glorious cheese of Rhapsody) and Gothic Metal influenced (Epica and 75% of Zeth's music library).

Blind Guardian- Sacred Worlds

Gothic

This is apparently an ultra-atmospheric subsection of doom. I tend to disagree, though I am not too familiar with the genre. Ask Zeth, this is also his kind of music.

Siriena- Lost in Life (pretty solid for what they are)

Post-Metal

It is frequently debated whether this is a genre of music or not. I tend to claim it as one however, as it has several overarching commonalities. Some might call this hipster metal actually, as it is often atmospheric sludge or really heavy post-rock... both of which are pitchfork approved. A few of my favourites include Intronaut, Rosetta, Isis, Russian Circles and Neurosis.

Neurosis- Stones From the Sky (this is of the atmosludge variety)

Metalcore

CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG BREE BREE CHUG CHUG. This is worthless music by bands such as Whitechapel, Bring Me the Horizon, and other terrible groups you may purchase at Hot Topic. Protip: Breakdowns =/= heavy

EXAMPLE: Between the Buried and Me- Viridian (Ok, so they are really progressive... but close enough. They are vaugely influenced by metalcore. At least they are good)

Nu Metal

An unholy amalgamation of everything bad in music. Scratching turntables and rapping about grunge themes with death metal vocals while wearing masks? Why the hell not? Examples include Slipknot, Disturbed, Drowning Pool, and Linkin Park. Now you that you know, avoid them at all costs.

EXAMPLE


Ok, well... that's all I can think of now. Feel free to make this into a general metal discussion topic. Hope this is helpful.


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PostPosted: 31 Oct 2010, 16:59 
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I enjoy your heavy bias in the descriptions. Particularly against thrash, metalcore, and nu, which contain some of my favorite bands (Metallica, Parkway Drive, Disturbed). Now, I admit that there are some bands in these genres that I don't find worth listening to. Slipknot is of them. However, Metallica has some of the most iconic songs in metal history (Master of Puppets, Ride the Lightning), Parkway Drive has some of the most epic breakdowns ever (Pressures, Boneyards), that just make me happy, and I find Disturbed's blend of melody with the heavy guitar that I love so much rather pleasing (Hell and Indestructible in particular). Also, Disturbed doesn't use scratching turntables, or rap lyrics, or wear masks. I find those bands (like Slipknot) rather silly.



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PostPosted: 31 Oct 2010, 18:48 
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Ah, perhaps I should have appended heavily biased to the title. I am a bit blunt with my musical opinions, and I hate most of the bands in those genres. If you would like, however, I will gladly replace my overtly opinionated descriptions with something more fair to the genres if you type it up.

EDIT: You can now choose 3 genres in the poll. I'd personally like to add Doom and Avant-Garde if you figure it out Zeth.


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PostPosted: 31 Oct 2010, 20:21 
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Bias isn't necessarily bad if it does not impair discussion or a fair vote. Still, I daresay you should have added a real example for Nu Metal.
I personally voted for Avant-Garde, Symphonic and Gothic.

Traditional:
It's ok, but when it's said that this is the most mainstream exposed metal, it's because it's true. To quote Damon Albarn, "It’s a homogenization of everything and it will ultimately lead to emptiness." "But Zeth," you may say, "that seems somewhat extreme. And how can it be homogenising if it was what started the trend?" Well you're right, it is extreme and saying it's homogenising is misleading. But I tend to feel that because it was the first step into metal, that's the reason it isn't as good as newer developments. It needed to grow more.
Overall Opinion: Neutral

Doom:
Not much to say on this one. It simply doesn't strike my fancy most times, though there are a few Black Sabbath tracks in my collection.
Overall Opinion: Neutral

Power:
I like Power Metal, and I think overall this is probably because the people who make it are obsessed with telling a story. If Mediaeval bards played metal, it would either be this or Gothic. Really, I see a ton of parallels between Power and Gothic anyway, they just have different methods of accomplishing the same goal.
Overall Opinion: Good

Thrash:
Meh. Van Canto's cover of Battery and Apocalyptica's cover of Fight Fire with Fire were better than the original Metallica versions, but I have nothing against Metallica or thrash itself. IIRC I do have Damage Inc. 5 starred in my collection.
Overall Opinion: Neutral

Death:
No comment outside the vocals start going downhill from here.
Overall Opinion: Dislike

Black:
Aw hell nah!
Overall Opinion: Really Bad

Folk:
Folk, folk is good, though I don't actively collect it.
Overall Opinion: Good

Progressive & Avant-Garde:
Progressive and Avant-Garde I tend to group together in my head, seeing as I view their development as something of a step into a new genre, kinda like Traditional Metal itself was stepping away from Rock. (I mean heck, it's called Progressive.) Not that i'm saying Prog and A-G should be grouped together in their own little thing--they definitely have separate identities, with Prog being truly a form of evolved metal, and Avant-Garde being more or less synonymous with WTFcore Metal. These two are held in very high opinion by me, and disregarding soundtracks, Avant-Garde Metal makes up the second most represented genre in my collection. Debatable third, it gets weird when you try to the massive entanglement of Gothic and Symphonic as genres.
Overall Opinion: Excellent

Symphonic & Gothic:
Again, I group these two together in my head, though even amongst the upper echelons of the music fandom elite it's been noted that Gothic and Symphonic Metal are becoming ever more and more difficult to separate. Perhaps not necessarily because they are identical, but because it seems that every band that does one also does the other. Which, given that Symphonic Metal as a genre is identified almost entirely by physical aspects (the type of vocals, the instrumentation involved) and Gothic Metal seems almost entirely identified by themes, attitudes, moods and atmosphere, the debates tend to get even weirder, since pretty much any given genre is identified using common traits among both physical band/artist choices in production and themes and sound. Even so, these two together comprise my favourite metal. Probably my favourite music, period.
Overall Opinion: Excellent


Post-Metal:
Truthfully? I know nothing about this. Listening to the example provided bored me to death though.
Overall Opinion: ???--PROFIT!

Metalcore:
I'm sorry 1337, I honestly cannot think of a redeeming factor to this genre. It's just...nasty. I can't really even describe why I dislike it, it just sounds all wrong and cringe-worthy.
Overall Opinion: Really Bad

Nu Metal:
I am highly sceptical about this genre and the artists/bands in it. I mean, generally I hate it. But at the same time, something I mentioned to Java is that there seems to be about one track in every other Nu Metal discography that I really take a liking to. I can think of two Godsmack (Nu Metal/Hard Rock) tracks that I like, but the rest make me want to rip at my ears. There's one Linkin Park track that I like, but the rest I tend to get really annoyed by. All things considered, I believe this genre is plagued by being the equivalent of black-listed by the music community--meaning if you know anything about music you are automatically meant to despise it. That having been said, Nu Metal bands do nothing to fight this: they really don't seem to have much talent many times, and I don't like them. It's almost like they tried to be what they thought was progressive but actually had no clue what progressive was, and so just ended up being a Frankenstein's monster of clashing musical elements. Rap, metalcore, trash, and a dash of symph and/or black if the band is feisty enough. And even after someone told them what was up with Prog, they chose to ignore it and try WAAAY too hard to be the epitome of what they thought was metal evolution. Muddling the issue even further are bands--er, BAND, singular--such as System of a Down. Is it Nu Metal? We dunno! F'ing Magnets, how do they work?!
Overall Opinion: Dislike

Extraneous Comments:
I just wanted to toss out the idea of how I think of Progressive and Avant-Garde more specifically: I think of it more like a convergent trend after all the divergence the over-arching metal genre went through between the 1980s and 2000s. Prog is listed under pretty much every metal genre, not because I think every metal genre is forming it's own version of prog, but because they all have their own type of prog as prog evolves from some very diverse metal bands moving closer to common end point. Don't ask me what that common endpoint is other than it involves some much more sophisticated musical structures than the parent genres (which is why when a truly "Symphonic-Progressive Metal" band emerges rather than the current occasional "Symph Metal w/ Progressive Influences" I think you'll see it really dominate either Progressive Metal or trip the boundary completely and pitch headfirst into Avant-Garde Metal).

Also throwing out that my tastes are pretty much such that I am most attracted to bands/artists that manage to harmoniously juxtapose very unexpected elements in their music, and charging it with a ton of grand, over the top emotions. This is why the harder a band/artist is to classify into a genre, the higher the chance that I will like them a great deal. See: Apocalyptica, Van Canto, Vulture Industries, Stolen Babies, Evanescence, Diablo Swing Orchestra.



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(Gah! My browser just spontaneously closed itself as I was typing the final sentence of my post. Let's see if I can remember what I said.)

Firstly, thank you for making this thread! I have always found the wide diversity of names for metal subgenres utterly confusing and, with the exception of Symphonic, which I love, have never attempted to apply an epithet to any of the metal that I like. Even after reading this, there is still plenty that I'm not totally clear about, but it makes far more sense than it did before.

I instantly voted for Symphonic. It's easily my favourite genre of contemporary music. (Hardly surprising since for most of my life my musical tastes veered towards the classical side, especially big orchestral works and anything choral - I was a very keen choral singer - rather than anything band-related.)

Second comes Gothic.

After that it was much harder to choose. I tend to take a liking to individual songs by a wide variety of bands across a wide variety of genres, rather than going for a particular band or a particular style. In the end I went with Thrash because, despite many people's very scathing opinion of them, I do like rather a lot of Metallica's music.

Beyond that, there are a number of bands in the Death, Doom or Black categories where I'm not keen on the vocal style and, in some cases, the lyrics are the absolute antithesis of anything I would relate to or even approve of, but the instrumental parts are so exhilarating that I love listening to them. For me, music has to evoke a strong emotional response. That may be through songs that are intensely lyrical and beautiful, or it may be through crashing chords or frenetic rhythms, as in some of these metal styles.



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After that it was much harder to choose. I tend to take a liking to individual songs by a wide variety of bands across a wide variety of genres, rather than going for a particular band or a particular style. In the end I went with Thrash because, despite many people's very scathing opinion of them, I do like rather a lot of Metallica's music.
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I greatly favour identifying individual tracks rather than albums or artists, which is tied pretty strongly to my obsessive compulsive behaviour in regards to my music collection's organisation. I always make sure I listen through a discography and rate each song 1-5 stars. Five star songs are generally the only ones I listen to, and predictably there's more of them than any other. Four means I really like the song but it just falls short. Basically, I'd like listening to it, just not frequently. Three, predictably, is neutral. Two is dislike, and one is hate.
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Beyond that, there are a number of bands in the Death, Doom or Black categories where I'm not keen on the vocal style and, in some cases, the lyrics are the absolute antithesis of anything I would relate to or even approve of, but the instrumental parts are so exhilarating that I love listening to them. For me, music has to evoke a strong emotional response. That may be through songs that are intensely lyrical and beautiful, or it may be through crashing chords or frenetic rhythms, as in some of these metal styles.
Agreed. With pretty much...all of that.



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Personally, I like it as heavy as I can get it, as long as it still retains musicianship, and as long as I want to listen to it. For instance, I don't like Cannibal Corpse. Because they're disgusting, and their music all sounds the same to me. I understand that some people don't find metalcore pleasant, but I enjoy music I can punch zombies to. Parkway Drive fits perfectly. Take Pressures, one of their new songs. I love it, partly because there's so much power behind the music and partly, being a guitar player, because I can appreciate the skill it takes to make such music. I know it may sound like a bunch of guys hitting guitars with sticks, but I promise you it's more than that.



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dinowoman wrote:
Beyond that, there are a number of bands in the Death, Doom or Black categories where I'm not keen on the vocal style and, in some cases, the lyrics are the absolute antithesis of anything I would relate to or even approve of, but the instrumental parts are so exhilarating that I love listening to them. For me, music has to evoke a strong emotional response. That may be through songs that are intensely lyrical and beautiful, or it may be through crashing chords or frenetic rhythms, as in some of these metal styles.
I personally feel the same way about these genres (well... with the exception of doom, which I love nearly all the sub-genres of). I've generally found my favourite death and black releases are those that deviate furthest from their "blueprint". Alcest is a wonderful example of this. Their (or more accurately, his) latest album Ecailles De Lune takes the black metal formula and blends it with otherworldly shoegaze and beautiful post-rock. It's also refreshing to know the lyrics, though in French, are about a dreamworld rather than Satan. The track I posted is actually much more intense than most of the album. I highly recommend it to anyone, whether they claim to be a black metal fan or not.


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