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PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012, 00:37 
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First of all: Favourite protagonist?
Moist von Lipwig, Moist von Lipwig, MOIST VON LIPWIG.
I have trouble describing exactly what I like about him, aside from him being the quintessence of my favourite character. Neither good nor bad, but grey; who chases what he wants and is ok with cheating other people out of what they want, but is not a heartless miser; and is reliable without being predictable. You can bet on him (literally, and in more ways than one).

Now to be fair, he's the only one whose stories I've read any of, but I've been around the franchise for quite a while, which is why Rincewind runs him a very close second. Not that I expect I'm unique in either of these choices. I've still many MANY characters to meet, so, I'm sure this will become a list sooner or later. (Also, Lord Vetinari. Just...Havelock Vetinari. That man does Heiss proud and I love him.)

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PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012, 00:45 
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His Grace Commander Sir Samuel Vimes, Blackboard Monitor. I shall never get enough of Vimes.

Moist and Death tie for second.


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Hard to pick one, but I've always liked the Lancre witches' books.



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PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012, 13:00 
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I don't know much about those...do expound.



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PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012, 19:14 
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Death has to be my favourite. For such a supposedly fearsome, awe-inspiring entity he has some hilarious human quirks. I love the dichotomy between what he represents and his actual personality.

He's probably followed by Sam Vimes, although Moist von Lipwig runs him pretty close. I find it very hard to put my finger on what appeals to me about Vimes. Maybe it's his ordinariness. Someone it's easy to relate to. I certainly find his reactions in various circumstances very believable. Moist von Lipwig I like for quite similar reasons to Zeth: he's in the grey area between good and bad, which usually makes for a more interesting character. But I also liked the way, in Going Postal, that he started out with little interest in anything but what he could get out of it for himself, but ended up totally committed to a cause for its own sake (a bit clichéd, maybe - after all, that could describe Cloud too :P - but it drew me into the development of his character), while still not averse to using underhand tactics to achieve his ends.

Granny Weatherwax is pretty awesome too, in her case, almost entirely due to her sheer power, though the comedy value of her double act with Nanny Ogg can't be ignored either.



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PostPosted: 05 Mar 2012, 22:29 
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[21:00:12] GET ONLINE DAMNIT I WANT TO SHOW YOU THIS
[21:14:47] SAFQ#$CERASDCV34wersd
[21:14:51] I sense distress
[21:14:51] C@#$Qfwerds
[21:14:53] no
[21:14:56] it
[21:15:10] it's something that transcends brilliance and magnificence and heaven and everything that is good
[21:15:27] phew
[21:15:34] I'll just paste this
[21:15:40] my blood pressure is high
[21:15:41] [21:12:07] OH
[21:12:09] OH MY
[21:12:17] OHYMWGOWD ITS EVERYTHING
[21:12:25] I am the only computer in the Digital Media lab with Chrome.
[21:12:42] It's literally and when I say literally I mean literally and not really
[21:12:43] They must all bow to my superiority.
[21:12:52] literally everything discworld ever published
[21:12:56] high def
[21:12:58] and complete
[21:13:01] all the novels
[21:13:03] all the cover art
[21:13:06] all the graphic novels
[21:13:09] all the science books
[21:13:09] what.
[21:13:11] WHAT.
[21:13:15] all the maps
[21:13:18] MAPS CHARLSA
[21:13:19] W H A T
[21:13:23] sketches
[21:13:23] notes
[21:13:25] everything
[21:13:29] WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
[21:13:31] AND IT'S ALL FREE
[21:13:39] http://home.uninet.ee/~ronin/stuhv/Terry%20Pratchett/
[21:13:45] it was just a couple directories up
[21:13:47] ALL THE ART
[21:13:50] ALL THE NOVELS
[21:13:53] ALL THE COMICS
[21:14:00] ALL THE EXTRANEOUS INFORMATION
[21:16:07] I DOWNLOADED AND READ THE GUARDS! GUARDS! GRAPHIC NOVEL RACHEL
[21:16:17] You can download the actual novels!
[21:16:21] The entire novels!
[21:16:27] All the way up to Unseen Academicals
[21:16:29] And maps!
[21:16:32] ALL THE MAPS
[21:16:35] HUGE
[21:16:38] DETAILED MAPS
[21:16:46] Cover art with the text on them!
[21:16:49] ALL the Kirby's
[21:16:53] All the Kidby;s!
[21:16:58] The Simons too
[21:17:00] Wow
[21:17:03] nobody even knows who Simon is
[21:17:07] but it's there
[21:17:16] and it's all free
[21:17:41] dang
[21:17:44] Look
[21:17:45] look
[21:17:46] http://home.uninet.ee/~ronin/stuhv/Terry%20Pratchett/Discworld%20Art/Maps/The%20Streets%20Of%20Ankh-Morpork%20-%20%20A%20Discworld%20Mapp.jpg
[21:17:57] And those maps have keys
[21:18:03] the ones with numbers do
[21:18:06] they label everything
[21:18:18] except one
[21:18:20] there is just one
[21:18:21] http://home.uninet.ee/~ronin/stuhv/Terry%20Pratchett/Discworld%20Art/Maps/Death's%20Domain%20-%20A%20Discworld%20Mapp.jpg
[21:19:05] http://home.uninet.ee/~ronin/stuhv/Terry%20Pratchett/Discworld%20Art/Maps/Ankh-Morpork%20Map%20key%202.jpg
[21:19:07] http://home.uninet.ee/~ronin/stuhv/Terry%20Pratchett/Discworld%20Art/Maps/Ankh-Morpork%20Map%20key%203.jpg
[21:19:11] http://home.uninet.ee/~ronin/stuhv/Terry%20Pratchett/Discworld%20Art/Maps/Ankh-Morpork%20Map%20key%204.jpg
[21:19:16] http://home.uninet.ee/~ronin/stuhv/Terry%20Pratchett/Discworld%20Art/Maps/Ankh-Morpork%20Map%20key%201.jpg
[21:19:30] but
[21:19:31] well
[21:19:35] maybe maps aren't your thing
[21:19:44] http://home.uninet.ee/~ronin/stuhv/Terry%20Pratchett/Discworld%20Art/Paul%20Kidby%20The%20Pratchett%20Portfolio/QMan_PK_TPP_1636_The_Night_Watch.jpg
[21:19:49] Vimesalicious!
[21:20:01] but no
[21:20:03] I can tell
[21:20:07] you're an originalist
[21:20:31] er
[21:20:33] hang on
[21:20:34] I saw it
[21:20:35] I know I did
[21:21:10] well it's taking too long so here have something UNPUBLISHED instead
[21:21:11] http://home.uninet.ee/~ronin/stuhv/Terry%20Pratchett/Discworld%20Art/The%20Josh%20Kirby%20Discworld%20Portfolio/Discworld%20Portfolio-006-Death%20in%20His%20Study%20(1990).JPG
[21:21:39] but no
[21:21:40] no
[21:21:44] those are just pictures, right?
[21:21:49] that's not what you love Pratchett for
[21:21:52] here, have a novel
[21:21:53] http://home.uninet.ee/~ronin/stuhv/Terry%20Pratchett/Discworld%20Novels/Pratchett,%20Terry%20-%20Discworld%2015%20-%20Men%20at%20Arms.pdf
[21:22:18] WITH footnotes
[21:22:26] Daaang
[21:22:37] Literally every single Discworld thing ever published
[21:22:51] save a map key and three or four Kirby paintings
[21:23:03] I can't stop looking through it all
[21:23:13] http://home.uninet.ee/~ronin/stuhv/Terry%20Pratchett/Discworld%20Graphic%20Novels/
[21:23:16] graphic novels
[21:23:27] AND
[21:23:29] oh ho ho
[21:23:35] I saved this one for you for last special
[21:24:04] http://home.uninet.ee/~ronin/stuhv/Terry%20Pratchett/Discworld%20Other/
Look 7 entries down
[21:24:24] Discworld GURPS RPGs
[21:24:28] All three of them
[21:24:43] Wow
[21:24:44] by the by
[21:24:45] http://home.uninet.ee/~ronin/stuhv/Terry%20Pratchett/Discworld%20Other/The%20L-Space%20Web%20-%20The%20Discworld%20Timeline.pdf
[21:25:07] that's handy
[21:25:13] very
[21:26:16] There is also a cookbook
[21:27:27] Wow- Wow Sauce
A note from the editors:We offer no apologies for including this; it has proved very popular.
The recipe for Wow-Wow Sauce is a hereditary possession of the Ridcully family. Archchancellor
Ridcully,like most wizards,is a man who goes for sauces; if you are the kind of person who takes a beefy
patty between two halves of a bun and then covers it with cheese, and a pickle,and some green relish,and
some red relish,and a different sort of pickle, and then some dark mustard, not forgetting of course some
light mustard, and then some bits of green and other things until the meat slides out unnoticed and falls
onto the floor, then you are of a magical inclination. A wizard will lick the top of a sauce bottle if he
thinks no one is watching. This is of course not genuine Wow-Wow Sauce, which can be made only
under carefully controlled conditions and is at its best when on the point of explosively disintegrating.
Even shaking the bottle is inviting catastrophe,and only a fool would risk smoking an after-dinner cigar if
Wow-Wow Sauce had been on the table. When a bottle of five-year-old sauce was found in the pantry
at UU,the entire wing was evacuated for two days until it could be disposed of in a controlled dinner.
butter, a lump about the size of
an egg
1 tablespoon plain flour 300ml beef stock 1 teaspoon English mustard 1 dessertspoon white wine
vinegar
1 tablespoon port
1 tablespoon mushroom concentrate'
salt and black pepper
1 heaped tablespoon freeze-dried
parsley 4 pickled walnuts, chopped*You will need to make the mushroom concentrate the day before (see recipe on page 60). If you don't have time, Worcestershire sauce
can be used as a substitute for the concentrate and port, but some of the delicacy of the flavour might be lost.
MELT THE BUTTER in a saucepan. Stir in the flour and work in the beef stock. Stir continuously on a
moderate heat until you have a smooth, thick sauce. Add the mustard,the wine vinegar,the port and the
mushroom concentrate, season with salt and pepper, and continue to cook the mixture for about 10
minutes. Stir in the parsley and the walnuts, warm through and serve.This sauce, when added to roast beef, will make the steer glad it went to all that trouble.
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PostPosted: 06 Mar 2012, 03:49 
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I just saw your post about this on Google+. I have of course bookmarked the page. I don't think I've ever come across such an awesome site for any franchise before.



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http://www.avclub.com/articles/terry-pr ... sis,88808/

Also I can/t wait for Raising Steam.



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I'm also looking forward very much to Raising Steam.

And that was a very interesting interview. I was also unaware that his diagnosis had been changed from Alzheimer's to posterior cortical atrophy. While still a distressing condition, especially for a writer, I feel it's a slightly better deal because it affects specific things rather than causing the deterioration of the mind in general, which is truly frightening.



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Huh. I thought it was going to be called Raising Taxes. Interesting.

I'm kind of relieved to hear about the new diagnosis. Obviously it's still a terrible thing to happen to anyone, but the idea of one of the most brilliant men on the planet losing, well, himself...what a tragic and hideous thing to happen to anyone.


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Raising Taxes is actually an entirely different Discworld novel he's working on. The third Lipwig book.



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Huh. Missed this. I actually own the physical copies of The cookbook, the World maps, and a construction kit for the Unseen University.

Also, I might be a little OCD in this, but I read all the books in order of release. I'm just at The Truth. Which I Didn't realize I already owned for over a year.

As for characters. I like Vimes, Death and Susan. Maybe I'll like Moist, but given I've yet to start The Truth, I've obviously not read any of him yet.



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I'm OCD about reading them in canonically chronological order.



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I just grab whichever one I don't have yet that looks the most interesting.


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That's pretty much my approach - except that Mac owns them all so it's a matter of grabbing one I haven't read yet which looks interesting. :P

Actually, that goes very much against my normal style - I'd normally be very much like Ethan or Chaz in that I'd generally read a series either in chronological order or in order of release. The main reason it doesn't apply to the Discworld stories is that Mac has many of them as audio books and tends to play them in the car so I'd already heard a whole load of random ones, which meant I could pick up virtually any book and already know what it follows on from.



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I tried to read sets about the same characters (Rincewind, Lancre witches, Watch, etc.) in the right order, but besides that it was mostly just "read them as I find them".

If Thief of Time is any guide, "canon chronology" is a little fuzzy anyway. :P


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David wrote:
If Thief of Time is any guide, "canon chronology" is a little fuzzy anyway. :P
http://home.uninet.ee/~ronin/stuhv/Terry%20Pratchett/Discworld%20Other/The%20L-Space%20Web%20-%20The%20Discworld%20Timeline.pdf

Course that can be a little brain twisty to read. I used to have a nice flowchart, but I can't find it.



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I get a lot of mine used too, so often it's more just a case of what I happen to find than anything. Normally I would insist on reading a series in the proper order, but with Discworld it doesn't really matter, since each book is self-contained. Besides, the second one I ever read (and the first one I read in long enough that it was kind of effectively also the first one I read) was Night Watch, which pretty much tossed any attempt at following proper chronology straight out the window. After that it was like, why even bother pretending I'm reading these in the right order? Or any kind of order.


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My first one was Going Postal.

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Reading this, I am tempted to raid my Library for such Books in the near Future.



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I get mine either new or From the Library. New usually as gifts.

Have I mentioned my natural state of being is broke?

But yeah, I read the Chronicles of Narnia in Chronological order, and also Started Redwall like that.



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I selectively searched for mine across eBay, AbeBooks, and Amazon. Most are lightly used/like new (and really are), but a few are new--mostly the older ones. I was really adamant about having the original UK artwork as well as having UK printed copies, which involved shipping them form the UK about 75% of the time. As far as the main novel series is concerned (meaning, no guides, games, supplementary works or the young readers), I won all of them, and they've run me about $100-120 total. It should be noted that something like $60-80 of that sum went to only three or four books that were just...really hard to get in confirmation of my self-imposed criteria.

My original goal was to get all hardback, but that quickly became infeasible. So what I ended up with is from The Colour of Magic up to Interesting Times I have paperback, excepting The Light Fantastic and Lords and Ladies, which are hardback. From Maskerade to the newest release, Making Money, I have hardback, excepting Feet of Clay, The Fifth Elephant and Going Postal, which are paperback.

The exception to all of this is Going Postal. It's paperback, American printing and cover, and was not acquired through any of the above sites. Rachel gave it to me because she's super amazing.

There were some fun times collecting those books. One of them came from a tiny little shop in the wall from a place I've never heard of in Cumbria, and the store owner wrote me a little note. It was awesome.



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Most of mine are the crappy American covers, regretfully-but, thankfully, the American covers have gotten much better lately. Like they finally realized that hey, this guy's a knight or something, maybe we should spend more than five bucks on a cover artist?

I do have a very nice copy of Thud! that came to me from Finland via BookMooch, though. Sadly it is not written in Finnish.

I got my (now extremely worn out) copy of Going Postal in exchange, in a roundabout way, for a can of spray varnish. My copies of Guards! Guards! and Moving Pictures are both badly decayed (not my fault) with weird, poorly drawn covers, both of which were found used. And I distinctly remember getting Reaper Man and The Fifth Element at a Books A Million in Paducah. I was on a camping trip in the middle of a spell of bad depression, started having a really bad anxiety attack and didn't have anything to distract me from it, so my parents found a bookstore and got me those two. And I will say that reading Reaper Man while having a massive existential anxiety crisis was a very powerful experience. It hit very close to home in some odd ways.


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