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PostPosted: 15 Feb 2014, 22:32 
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I don't know about the 3DS--cause I dont' have one--but the DS and DS Lite can't use WiFi connections with any sort of security involved other than one or two protocols that nobody uses. Nobody anywhere remotely near where I live anyway. So my only options for connecting my DS to the internet is changing all of my home router options and resetting a LOT of devices all over the house--some twice--or hoping that somewhere within a couple hours drive in any direction there's a reliable public WiFi network without any protection (there aren't). And before you say "well places like McDonald's don't use protection" [insert joke here], keep in mind that places like that almost always require you to point your device to a default web page before browsing--DS can't do that. The first option, aside from being infuriatingly time-consuming and nerve-racking to the effect of "well if I screw this up we have no internet", has effectively been banned to me by my family. As a family we are heavy device and network users. Well, three/four are anyway.

Honestly I NEVER understood how there weren't mobs of angry people rioting at Nintendo offices across the globe when the DS Lite came out and they didn't allow for more varieties of WiFi networks to be compatible, because unprotected WiFi networks are unheard of in my area of the world--have been ALMOST from the time WiFi became "a thing", and the types of protected networks it can interface with are so limited as to effectively not exist where I live.



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I've never had Trouble connecting a 3DS to anything that had a strong enough Signal; the ordinary DS, however, was less-than-cooperative.



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It's a matter of the type of security on the network. I can connect at home (though if/when the router goes for a long time without being restarted on occasion, certain devices become unable to connect to it for some reason, including the 3DS), but the 3DS is incompatible with the school's wireless here. So I "have" to go to a coffee shop in town and enjoy a nice drink when I have to connect for some reason.



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PostPosted: 16 Feb 2014, 02:51 
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I find that Universities can be rather variable; the one I was at before the one at which I am now blocked Steam in the Library, but the present one does not appear to block anything Game-related at all. I've done Pokémon Battles using its Guest Wireless before, and it worked quite well.



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PostPosted: 07 May 2014, 13:01 
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I've already posted this in the Chatbox, but I think it better to mention further Thoughts here.

I was hoping for Remakes of Ruby and Sapphire last Generation, but it seems we're getting them this Time, and they continue the Letter Theme (X, Y, Alpha, Omega), which, I imagine, may mean further Split Mega-Evolutions (on the Pattern of Charizard X/Charizard Y, and Mewtwo X/Mewtwo Y). Kyogre and Groudon also appear, from the Boxart, to have received Mega-Evolutions. I further speculate that the following Pokémon will have them:

- Sceptile (implied in Blaziken)
- Swampert (also implied in Blaziken)
- Machamp (implied in Gengar, Alakazam)
- Golem (also implied in Gengar, Alakazam)
- Gallade (implied in Gardevoir)
- Milotic (implied in Gyarados)
- Metagross (Steven's Signature Pokémon, though he is also known to use Aggron)
- Rayquaza (implied in Groudon and Kyogre, possibly with Rayquaza-Alpha and Rayquaza-Omega)

I also expect that Latiasite and Latiosite will be released with these Games.

Other random Speculations:

- The Hoenn Pokédex will be expanded to include Budew, Roserade, Gallade, Probopass, Dusknoir, Froslass, and possibly (but not as likely) a few other Pokémon from other Generations, as was done with the Johto Dex in Gen IV.
- Steven will be the Champion and Wallace the eighth Gym Leader, as in the original Ruby and Sapphire, rather than Wallace the Champion and Juan the eighth Gym Leader, as in Emerald.
- The Plot regarding Groudon or Kyogre may involve Maxie or Archie taking control of the appropriate Pokémon, and then becoming possessed by the Orb, as Archie in the Anime.

So, any other Thoughts?



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PostPosted: 07 May 2014, 13:40 
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I am not sure if I could care less about the mega-evolutions, and honestly, I hope that if we do get any, that there aren't many. It just seems too Digimon-esque for my liking.

Frankly, Hoenn wasn't my favorite area (Gen II will always be my favorite) but I'm still more excited about this than I was for X&Y, though this reminded me that I still need to pick up one of them lol. I've also considered playing the series over, though playing Leaf Green instead of Blue, if only because you can't run in Blue.



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PostPosted: 07 May 2014, 20:48 
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Gen2 was my favorite too (I almost "mavorite" instead of "my favorite"), but considering I didn't even pick up X or Y, going back to Hoenn is at least more attractive to me than last fall's games. So I might get one of these. We'll see what details are announced later, features and all that.



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PostPosted: 07 May 2014, 20:53 
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Hoenn was my favorite, so I'm pretty pumped about this. I still contend that it's the prettiest and most varied region we've gotten so far, so seeing it with improved graphics appeals a great deal. I will say though that I never saw those titles coming.


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PostPosted: 07 May 2014, 21:20 
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I couldn't help thinking that X and Y had some Hints that they were coming, but I can't remember what they were.

As for Hoenn itself, I think it's a Tossup between that an Johto for me on which is more aesthetically-pleasing (I tend to like Johto in Theory, but use mostly Pokémon from Kanto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh) — I've always felt Johto has something of a Fairy-Tale Quality to it. Hoenn does have one of the more interesting Stories, I would say, and also gave me several favourite Pokémon (Milotic, Sceptile, Roselia, Altaria, Salamence, Latios, Latias, and Gardevoir, to name a Few), so I'm really happy to see it remade.



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PostPosted: 07 May 2014, 23:06 
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Albert Clare wrote:
I've already posted this in the Chatbox, but I think it better to mention further Thoughts here.

I was hoping for Remakes of Ruby and Sapphire last Generation, but it seems we're getting them this Time, and they continue the Letter Theme (X, Y, Alpha, Omega), which, I imagine, may mean further Split Mega-Evolutions (on the Pattern of Charizard X/Charizard Y, and Mewtwo X/Mewtwo Y). Kyogre and Groudon also appear, from the Boxart, to have received Mega-Evolutions. I further speculate that the following Pokémon will have them:

- Sceptile (implied in Blaziken)
- Swampert (also implied in Blaziken)
- Machamp (implied in Gengar, Alakazam)
- Golem (also implied in Gengar, Alakazam)
- Gallade (implied in Gardevoir)
- Milotic (implied in Gyarados)
- Metagross (Steven's Signature Pokémon, though he is also known to use Aggron)
- Rayquaza (implied in Groudon and Kyogre, possibly with Rayquaza-Alpha and Rayquaza-Omega)

I also expect that Latiasite and Latiosite will be released with these Games.

Other random Speculations:

- The Hoenn Pokédex will be expanded to include Budew, Roserade, Gallade, Probopass, Dusknoir, Froslass, and possibly (but not as likely) a few other Pokémon from other Generations, as was done with the Johto Dex in Gen IV.
I find myself in the astounding position of agreeing with all of this completely, except the following:
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- Steven will be the Champion and Wallace the eighth Gym Leader, as in the original Ruby and Sapphire, rather than Wallace the Champion and Juan the eighth Gym Leader, as in Emerald.
- The Plot regarding Groudon or Kyogre may involve Maxie or Archie taking control of the appropriate Pokémon, and then becoming possessed by the Orb, as Archie in the Anime.
As to the first point about Steven being the Champ and Wallace the Eight Gym Leader: I hope that happens and Juan gets kicked to the curb. I think that was the one thing that really just pissed me off about Emerald. Steven is too awesome to be sidelined like he was. That and both Wallace and Juan are just...so lame. That said...I can't say I'm so confident that it will occur the way I'd like it to. I'm just not sure. Call it a gut feeling.

As to the second point about the orb possession: I don't think they'll do that. Generally Nintendo likes to keep the games and the anime at arm's length from each other, like sister universes. There has been SOME overlap, but not enough for me to believe that they'd have the anime canon retcon over the game canon.
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I am not sure if I could care less about the mega-evolutions, and honestly, I hope that if we do get any, that there aren't many. It just seems too Digimon-esque for my liking.
I pretty much see it this way. I really don't like the mega evolution crap. I mean...why?

As for the favourite region discussion:
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Hoenn was my favorite, so I'm pretty pumped about this. I still contend that it's the prettiest and most varied region we've gotten so far, so seeing it with improved graphics appeals a great deal. I will say though that I never saw those titles coming.
This, combined with the fact that region teams--and by extension the overall story for the region--were the most interesting and logical. Plasma has given them a run for their money, but I'd still rank Teams Aqua/Magma as the hands down best teams in the franchise.



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PostPosted: 07 May 2014, 23:08 
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PostPosted: 07 May 2014, 23:39 
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Well I really only have one thing to say about looks and who's the most awesome in that regard:

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Zeth wrote:
Albert Clare wrote:
- Steven will be the Champion and Wallace the eighth Gym Leader, as in the original Ruby and Sapphire, rather than Wallace the Champion and Juan the eighth Gym Leader, as in Emerald.
As to the first point about Steven being the Champ and Wallace the Eight Gym Leader: I hope that happens and Juan gets kicked to the curb. I think that was the one thing that really just pissed me off about Emerald. Steven is too awesome to be sidelined like he was. That and both Wallace and Juan are just...so lame. That said...I can't say I'm so confident that it will occur the way I'd like it to. I'm just not sure. Call it a gut feeling.

I kind-of like Wallace, but he isn't nearly as good as Steven, and is MUCH easier. Even if Water is a good defensive Type, Hoenn gives you a fairly good Range of Grass- and Electric-Type Pokémon (Bellossom, Vileplume, Shiftry, Ludicolo, Sceptile, Manectric, Electrode, Magneton, Lanturn). Steven is one of few later Type Specialists not to carry a Monotype Team, which tends to work in his Favour. Juan gets so little Development in the Games, and appears to be Extruded Wallace Substitute in the Anime, so I've no real Feelings about him.

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Albert Clare wrote:
- The Plot regarding Groudon or Kyogre may involve Maxie or Archie taking control of the appropriate Pokémon, and then becoming possessed by the Orb, as Archie in the Anime.

As to the second point about the orb possession: I don't think they'll do that. Generally Nintendo likes to keep the games and the anime at arm's length from each other, like sister universes. There has been SOME overlap, but not enough for me to believe that they'd have the anime canon retcon over the game canon.

That was one of my more hesitant Speculations, but it's essentially based in the Fact that we have Mega-Groudon and Mega-Kyogre on the Boxart, and it would be nice to see them integrated into the Plot, even if they are only playable in the Postgame. Wild Pokémon are incapable of Mega-Evolution, but it's conceivable that it COULD work if Maxie or Archie took control of Groudon or Kyogre as Ghetsis does to Kyurem in Black 2/White 2. This being Nintendo, the Boxart could, of course, be lying to us.

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Crystal Shards wrote:
I am not sure if I could care less about the mega-evolutions, and honestly, I hope that if we do get any, that there aren't many. It just seems too Digimon-esque for my liking.
I pretty much see it this way. I really don't like the mega evolution crap. I mean...why?

It's better in Practice than it sounds, like the Fairy-Type. I never knew much about Digimon, so I can't really comment there.

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Archie AND Shelly both. They're amazing.



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Honestly, having played some Pokemon X (not that much so far, because college happened), the concept of Mega Evolutions doesn't bother me half as much as the way they keep going ON about the Mega Evolutions. I'd be quite happy going around catching Pokemon and giving them belly rubs in PokemonAmie except every five minutes the four other trainers they saddled you with would run up and yell "C'MON WE HAVE TO GO TO THE NEXT TOWN TO FIND OUT THE SECRET OF MEGA EVOLUTION". Fine, you go do that and leave me alone.

As for its relevance to the remakes, I have two vague theories about that right now:

1.) Somehow the Orbs act as the catalysts for it when it comes to Kyogre and Groundon?

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This is apparently not a Hoax (linked for Size). I find it interesting, to say the very least.

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In Addition to that Link above, Zelda, and Ganon.



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I was wondering if they'd do the other two starters.



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A few Things I've picked up here and there suggest that the new Groudon/Kyogre are 'Primaeval Formes', meaning they actually are likely something closer to Origin Forme Giratina, rather than Mega-Groudon and Mega-Kyogre, as I previously thought. Mega Sceptile is also Grass-Dragon, and has the Ability 'Lightningrod' (Swampert's is Swift Swim), which is kind-of... incredibly weird. I was hoping for Grass-Steel with Tough Claws.

Better Look at Team Aqua and Team Magma; in order from Right to Left, the Katakana read the Japanese Names of Maxie, Tabitha, Courtney, Magma Grunts, Aqua Grunts, Matt, Shelly, and Archie; they seem to have gotten an ENORMOUS Redesign, and sometimes scarcely resemble the Originals. I have no real Opinion of Courtney, find Shelly slightly worse, Matt improved, and Tabitha vastly worse. I'm not sure whether or not I like the new Leader Designs.



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Sheeellllllyyy what have they DONE TO YOU‽

Augh, my favourite generation, ng, such...ambivalence...gah!



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I'm assuming they wanted to create more detailed Characters because the Hardware can handle it, though they might have gone overboard (and into the Volcano), now that I look at it again.

(I find it exceedingly weird that we share a favourite Generation, though Hoenn did take a While to grow on me, as did Sinnoh; perhaps simply take your apparent Approach to Language on this one and simply don't think too much about it and run with the Thing — I'm starting to consider this more a 'Reimagining' of Hoenn than a 'Remake' per se, since it seems a great Deal is set to change.)



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It DOES begin to look like a re-imagining. *sigh* And after I so ardently desired a remake.



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Well, maybe we will get one with the hypothetical Delta Emerald (because Gamma doesn't exist, even though it is the third Greek Letter), but that may never actually materialise, though a Trademark has been registered (WaterBlue was also registered, but that might simply have been Nintendo covering Bases; ThunderYellow may also have happened, but I'm less-sure of that one).

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2Ds would yeah, but I simply don't have the time or cash. I'll have to continue to enjoy vicariously.



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Considering this is my least favorite gen, I'm perfectly fine with what you've linked. I figured they'd reimagine some of it since if I recall correctly pretty much all of the remakes have had some updates to their graphics, and well, Gen VI is quite a bit further along than Gen III was. Possibly the biggest jump yet. So it wouldn't surprise me that Gen III would get a major rehaul.



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With some reflection, it doesn't look as though there's been significantly more deviation from the originals than there was with HeartGold/SoulSilver. Most of what we've seen so far seems consistent with the changing art style of the series as a whole. Which doesn't necessarily mean I like it (my favorite is the Gen 4 art, and most of what we've gotten since then seems a little bit off to me) but I can take it. I do find Swampert's-and to a lesser extent, Sceptile's-mega evolutions to be rather disappointing, though.

As for the Team art...I'd say the Aqua grunts look a bit more cool, the Magma grunts a bit less cool, I'm not sure how to respond to the Admins (though the huge disparity in appearance between the male and female Admins of both teams amuses me considering some of the confusion that the originals sparked on that front (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Tabitha)). Archie is...uh...black, now? Or does he just have a heavy tan? I can't tell from that picture. Maxie, glasses, lolwut.

I'm glad to see Steven's appearing prominently in the promo art (and without any huge changes to his design; he was perfectly cool to begin with, thanks). That seems to raise the chances of him being the Champion still, or at the least a very important character to the game, if his design is shown with the protagonists and before any of the Gym Leaders or Elite Four. Not real keen on the player character designs, but they could've been worse.


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