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 Post subject: Herbivore Men?
PostPosted: 04 Jan 2013, 12:32 
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This morning, I came across a video discussing the declining population of Japan. According to the video, this was a result of a rising population of what people called "herbivore men". This was the first time I've ever heard of such a thing, so I had to look it up. I actually found a Wikipedia page of it as well as several news articles regarding herbivore men:

Wikipedia Article
CNN Article
Slate Magazine Article
The Japan Times Article
The Asia-Pacific Journal Article

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 Post subject: Re: Herbivore Men?
PostPosted: 05 Jan 2013, 13:34 
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I'd never come across the term 'herbivore men' before, but I did read several years ago about the problem in Japan of men starting to find their satisfaction in life from gaming, anime and porn, rather than real relationships. In the article I read, it was married women complaining about their husbands having no interest in them or even in sex. I once read that, as a race, Asians tend to typically have lower testosterone levels than westerners. I've also heard theories that oestrogens have been getting into the food chain and adversely affecting male hormone levels. If either of those assertions is true, then I suppose Asian men might be physically more prone to developing these passive tendencies, but I was also interested in the theory expressed in one of the articles (I'm afraid I've only had time to read two of them so far) that Japanese culture encourages it - that where a westerner might complain about life, the Japanese tend to retreat in on themselves instead.



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 Post subject: Re: Herbivore Men?
PostPosted: 08 Jan 2013, 10:13 
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That's funny, I had heard an entirely different theory: the phenomena of the "missing women of Asia." The sex ratio for Asia is/was very skewed toward males and so there's less selection for producing children, which also has led to higher amounts of homosexual activity. On paper, it makes sense, but I haven't done any research into it to verify its veracity.



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 Post subject: Re: Herbivore Men?
PostPosted: 08 Jan 2013, 12:57 
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Belle wrote:
That's funny, I had heard an entirely different theory: the phenomena of the "missing women of Asia." The sex ratio for Asia is/was very skewed toward males and so there's less selection for producing children, which also has led to higher amounts of homosexual activity. On paper, it makes sense, but I haven't done any research into it to verify its veracity.


I think I found a Wikipedia page regarding that. You can try that if you like:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_women_of_Asia


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PostPosted: 08 Jan 2013, 13:30 
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I had heard of the 'missing women' issue, but only in the context of China, and largely as a by-product of the one child per family law. I may be wrong, but I've never had the impression that it was quite as marked in Japan, where people who are keen for a boy have both the freedom to have another child and, usually, sufficient income to support one.



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PostPosted: 08 Jan 2013, 13:45 
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I'd heard it's worst in China, but that other Asian countries still prefer men. I have no idea though.



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PostPosted: 08 Jan 2013, 18:12 
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It is also, as I understand it, quite prevalent in India; something to do with the Cultures of both Countries seeing Boys as something of an Investment, but Girls as more a Liability because a Woman has a Dowry. A Son marries and you gain, a Daughter marries and you lose. There is probably more to it than simply that, of course.



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